SouthWest Common Council Meeting on Vacant Brooks Landing Restaurant - July 20, 2017 - Location19.org2024-03-28T16:28:16Zhttps://location19.org/forum/topics/southwest-common-council-meeting-on-vacant-brooks-landing-restaur?commentId=2047650%3AComment%3A113795&feed=yes&xn_auth=noUnfortunately, I don't think…tag:location19.org,2017-11-11:2047650:Comment:1137972017-11-11T13:55:20.699ZEleanor Colemanhttps://location19.org/profile/EleanorColeman
<p>Unfortunately, I don't think "free" concerts translates into paying customers for a destination restaurant. Neither Corn Hill nor College Town, where loads of money has been dropped, have been able to sustain their restaurants. Not feeling that our area holds a lot of promise for a different outcome. Glad that other possibilities are being explored. Unity around whatever goes into that space will be key.</p>
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<p>Unfortunately, I don't think "free" concerts translates into paying customers for a destination restaurant. Neither Corn Hill nor College Town, where loads of money has been dropped, have been able to sustain their restaurants. Not feeling that our area holds a lot of promise for a different outcome. Glad that other possibilities are being explored. Unity around whatever goes into that space will be key.</p>
<p></p> And hopefully, this will show…tag:location19.org,2017-11-11:2047650:Comment:1137032017-11-11T07:52:40.371ZMark Sweetlandhttps://location19.org/profile/MarkSweetland
<p>And hopefully, this will show restaurant owners that there is an audience for them!</p>
<p>And hopefully, this will show restaurant owners that there is an audience for them!</p> Kudos for focusing on opportu…tag:location19.org,2017-11-11:2047650:Comment:1136322017-11-11T05:35:56.612ZEleanor Colemanhttps://location19.org/profile/EleanorColeman
<p>Kudos for focusing on opportunities for others to share their ideas on possibilities for the vacant restaurant space. Hopefully, the preparation around entertainment in the amphitheater outside will draw even more people.</p>
<p>Kudos for focusing on opportunities for others to share their ideas on possibilities for the vacant restaurant space. Hopefully, the preparation around entertainment in the amphitheater outside will draw even more people.</p> A subcommittee of the SWCC is…tag:location19.org,2017-11-11:2047650:Comment:1137952017-11-11T03:39:57.552ZJohn Boutethttps://location19.org/profile/JohnBoutet
<p>A subcommittee of the SWCC is looking into inviting residents of the neighborhoods impacted by the traffic change to South Plymouth Avenue caused by the Brooks Landing and Brooks Crossing developments to propose viable uses for the space originally reserved for a "destination restaurant". Identifying a viable restaurant model could be a solution. John Curran's proposal for an <a href="https://youtu.be/N16dJC2yFDg" target="_blank">Interactive Learning Center</a> use of the Brooks Crossing…</p>
<p>A subcommittee of the SWCC is looking into inviting residents of the neighborhoods impacted by the traffic change to South Plymouth Avenue caused by the Brooks Landing and Brooks Crossing developments to propose viable uses for the space originally reserved for a "destination restaurant". Identifying a viable restaurant model could be a solution. John Curran's proposal for an <a href="https://youtu.be/N16dJC2yFDg" target="_blank">Interactive Learning Center</a> use of the Brooks Crossing 1st floor space is another option. Residents need to be informed about the whole covenant issue and familiarized with the space in question.</p>
<p>To draw attention to the Brooks Crossing venue another subcommittee is working to finally bring entertainment events to the amphitheater at Brooks Crossing for the spring and summer of 2018. Ron Christenson and the City are supporting the efforts of the Entertainment Committee.</p> What's current status on this?tag:location19.org,2017-11-09:2047650:Comment:1137002017-11-09T08:20:00.510ZMark Sweetlandhttps://location19.org/profile/MarkSweetland
<p>What's current status on this?</p>
<p>What's current status on this?</p> Existing businesses aren't su…tag:location19.org,2017-10-11:2047650:Comment:1129962017-10-11T05:27:34.719ZMark Sweetlandhttps://location19.org/profile/MarkSweetland
<p>Existing businesses aren't supported because they aren't any good. Dana, the places in existence do not have good food, are not worth going there. Tops is such a horrible store I hate going there if I have to pick up one item. You have to wait in line for one cashier, and maybe location in a crappy strip mall does not help. It looks like a place nobody would want to go. </p>
<p>If you can't have "the best restaurant in Rochester," it won't work. How you get it there is not anything I…</p>
<p>Existing businesses aren't supported because they aren't any good. Dana, the places in existence do not have good food, are not worth going there. Tops is such a horrible store I hate going there if I have to pick up one item. You have to wait in line for one cashier, and maybe location in a crappy strip mall does not help. It looks like a place nobody would want to go. </p>
<p>If you can't have "the best restaurant in Rochester," it won't work. How you get it there is not anything I know.</p>
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<p></p> John Curran made his latest p…tag:location19.org,2017-08-28:2047650:Comment:1118402017-08-28T05:26:03.831ZJohn Boutethttps://location19.org/profile/JohnBoutet
<p>John Curran made his latest proposal for a <em>Interactive Learning Center</em> use of the Brooks Crossing 1st floor space at the August 23rd SWCC Education Committe meeting. His presentation can be seen at <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/N16dJC2yFDg" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/N16dJC2yFDg</a></strong> .</p>
<p>John Curran made his latest proposal for a <em>Interactive Learning Center</em> use of the Brooks Crossing 1st floor space at the August 23rd SWCC Education Committe meeting. His presentation can be seen at <strong><a href="https://youtu.be/N16dJC2yFDg" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/N16dJC2yFDg</a></strong> .</p> I agree with everything you s…tag:location19.org,2017-08-12:2047650:Comment:1115292017-08-12T06:43:36.680ZMark Sweetlandhttps://location19.org/profile/MarkSweetland
<p>I agree with everything you say, but it has nothing to do with Staybridge. The developer is Ron Cristenson.</p>
<p>I agree with everything you say, but it has nothing to do with Staybridge. The developer is Ron Cristenson.</p> I will support whatever is de…tag:location19.org,2017-08-11:2047650:Comment:1115252017-08-11T17:58:26.294ZBonny Mayerhttps://location19.org/profile/BonnyMayer
<div dir="auto">I will support whatever is decided to hold Staybridge to the fire for a restaurant.</div>
<div dir="auto">1. cut the space </div>
<div dir="auto">2. finish a kitchen with electric, vents, water, safety equipment prep space sinks oven etc.</div>
<div dir="auto">3. finish the space with walls, air, heat etc</div>
<div dir="auto">Make space look like a quality sit down non-fast food space.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I will support whatever is decided to hold Staybridge to the fire for a restaurant.</div>
<div dir="auto">1. cut the space </div>
<div dir="auto">2. finish a kitchen with electric, vents, water, safety equipment prep space sinks oven etc.</div>
<div dir="auto">3. finish the space with walls, air, heat etc</div>
<div dir="auto">Make space look like a quality sit down non-fast food space.</div>
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<div dir="auto">or</div>
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<div dir="auto">give back all the $$$$$ tax credit etc he took from the city for the promise of credit union and restaurant.</div>
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<p><span>no thrift shop...no UofR...no exercise space....no soup kitchen. ..no more excuses</span></p> Thank you John for documentin…tag:location19.org,2017-08-04:2047650:Comment:1111912017-08-04T07:20:53.059ZMark Sweetlandhttps://location19.org/profile/MarkSweetland
<p>Thank you John for documenting this, so people can understand the space and the beauty outside. I still feel this should be developed as a restaurant, which is what the original understanding has been. I did see what Ron Christenson has tried to entice but feel not the right effort has been made. Hundreds of flyers sent out, not one person has come to look at the space.</p>
<p>That means the approach is wrong.</p>
<p>What the neighborhood wants is a restaurant that is a draw for people…</p>
<p>Thank you John for documenting this, so people can understand the space and the beauty outside. I still feel this should be developed as a restaurant, which is what the original understanding has been. I did see what Ron Christenson has tried to entice but feel not the right effort has been made. Hundreds of flyers sent out, not one person has come to look at the space.</p>
<p>That means the approach is wrong.</p>
<p>What the neighborhood wants is a restaurant that is a draw for people from throughout Rochester and even beyond. The local neighborhood does not support Brue or Wok because we have no reason to go there. Subway is a cheap place to get a lunch. In order to support the space, we need a restaurant like Two Vine, or Rooneys, or The French Quarter. Look up the river a mile, and you see Dino BBQ, which has been in business for 20 (?) years or more. And packed every lunch and dinner. So don't say it is not possible, which is the current attitude. Whoever is looking is just not doing a good job, and the marketing is not right. </p>
<p>I respect the ideas for non-profit such as tutoring center and if the money is available would be fine, should nothing else be possible. It is a thought that would have to be explored further, as schools should serve this objective, in current buildings already covered by tax dollars.</p>
<p>Paying the rent at $10 a square-foot means a highly profitable business, and that is only fair for the builder's investment. That is already a reduced rate.</p>
<p>If the covenant for a restaurant is to be changed, the money for other uses has to be guaranteed first. The U of R has repeatedly stated they will not be involved in this space. </p>
<p>I liked one person's suggestion for putting in a steak and ale house, with a ferry for bringing in people moving into downtown. We have a burgeoning market there, so let's take advantage of that, and make The Rapids a landing spot again. </p>
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