Help Stop The Break-Ins

There has been a recent string of burglaries on S Plymouth Ave. Previously this post was dedicated to one specific incident. Due to the feedback we received and its effectiveness... Let's open this discussion up to include ANY AND ALL incidents in the area. Anyone else that would like to contribute information, I encourage you to do so! In the past couple of months we have accumulated a great deal of footage surrounding many of these crimes. Unfortunatley the footage alone doesn't always do the trick. We need to make everyone aware of exactly what is going on in the Community. This process does take some time to put together. One by one i will be compiling the footage and posting it here until these crimes stop. A lot can be learned about how these crimes are committed just by watching them. IT IS TIME TO TURN ON THE LIGHTS!
Here you will find the links to the videos I have compiled:

October 26th 2012 - 1155 S. Plymouth Ave - Theft -

January 29th 2013 - 1199 S. Plymouth Ave - Home Burglary -

February 8th 2013 - 1191 S. Plymouth Ave - Car Burglary -

I also want to give anyone the opportunity to contact me regarding setting up a similar system to watch over their home, business, family, and property. In many cases these systems cost less than $500.00 and take about a day to set-up. Once set-up they are maintenance free and can be accessed from anywhere in the world with the use of your smart phone. Contact me at ajdd85@gmail.com.

I WANT TO HELP YOU GET THE TOOLS WE NEED TO HELP STOP THESE CRIMES!

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Permalink Reply by Joe D'Alessandro on February 8, 2013 at 10:42am

It is very simple. If that happened to me, I would pick up the phone and call the person who was under the impression that I took their belongings. To date the individuals have yet to call or write.....in large part because they do not want anyone to know who they are. The only reason someone stays in hiding, is that they have something to hide. It seems like we can worry about inappropriate pictures being posted when that actually problem. Until then, I think the more exposure the better.

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Permalink Reply by Mark Sweetland on February 8, 2013 at 12:05pm

Joe, common sense would say you are right. However, many lawyers would be out of business if that was the way things worked. In fact, if anyone publishes a photo of someone walking down the street, a public place, and someone suggests they may have committed a crime, lawsuits can arise. The person who posted the photo and the website owner is open for slander. It is different, as Marian says, if the photo is taken on private property. In any case, call 911 and take your photos. If you have photos from security cams, send them to the police. Hope this makes things more clear. And of course, congrats to all involved in alerting police in this case to the identities of those in question. If their pictures were clearer when they were on private property, there may not be a problem with posting. I think Marian is just trying to alert people to this issue.

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Permalink Reply by Margy Meath on February 8, 2013 at 2:13pm

Marion, please clarify this statement:

And this is important: In order to post pictures on this or any other public forum, the individuals must be on private property when the photo is taken. Pictures taken on public streets, sidewalks, and/or corners can not be used as the sole means of identification, even if you know they have just done a crime nearby. Do send any photos to Lt. Hill.

--> is this some sort of "law"? - or - is Lt. Hill saying that photos taken in 'public' cannot be used to identify possible criminals?

I'm trying to make sense of what is being said here... there have been plenty of photos posted on this site that have been taken on public property - are you saying that we cannot post photos here that were taken on public property??

will appreciate your clarification re: this.

thanks

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Permalink Reply by Anthony D'Alessandro on February 8, 2013 at 2:41pm

Any individual that would jump to sue for defamation of charecter or slander rather than jumping on board to help solve problems in the community is in fact demonstrating poor charecter as well a poor understanding of the problems at large within their own community. This is absolutely not something we should be afraid of. The fear to stand up for what is right is in part what is wrong. This very fear is how we have gotten ourselves to where we are now - a situation where people are so reluctant to help and so ready to defend a potential suspect. Everyone's actions speak for themselves. It would be a ballsy move for someone to proceed with such a lawsuit, obviously it would be very telling of that individuals moral compass as well as where these problems may be originating if such a circumstance ever did arise.

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Permalink Reply by Kathleen M Mandel on February 13, 2013 at 6:32pm

I disagree entirely - I've never committed a crime in my life (barring a couple of speeding tickets!) but if someone posted a pic of me and suggested that I was involved in neighborhood crimes I would be very upset and frankly would consider suing, I do call the police if I see something I think is "wrong" but I don't believe that public slander is a good thing under any circumstances.

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Permalink Reply by Anthony D'Alessandro on February 13, 2013 at 7:47pm

I agree with you. slander whether it be public or private is bad under any circumstance. To be clear...What is happening here isn't slander (see definition) This is a statement of fact. - Here is a picture of individuals at a specific location at a specific time. Around that same time in that same vicinity someone entered someones home, went through their stuff and left with whatever they wanted to. A Camera photographed individuals with similar clothes, around the same time, on the property that the crime was committed, leaving with items matching the description of what was stolen.

Permalink Reply by Marian Boutet on February 13, 2013 at 9:04pm

In general, I believe it’s problematic to post a neutral shot of someone in a public place and accuse him of a crime. However, an image from a security camera that shows him trespassing on private property proves he was somewhere he wasn’t supposed to be and can be legitimate cause for suspicion. In the case Anthony is talking about, he did both: showed a public venue photo in addition to the private property photo in order to show the subject's face more clearly.

At the risk of seeming excessively picky, we're talking about "libel" here, not slander. :~)

Permalink Reply by Joe D'Alessandro on February 8, 2013 at 2:50pm

You can be sued for anyting at anytime by anyone. The question is whether or not they are likely to win. The photos that were posted are in my opinion appropriate in every way. I will not be more afraid to post the pictures than the criminals are to committ the crime. With all due respect, if the crime happened again, and I had the same pictures, I would post them again....every time. I think it is a mistake to allow the fear of a few misguided lawyers to derail our committment to common sense and pursuit of justice.

“The three great essentials to achieve anything worthwhile are, first, hard work; second, stick-to-itiveness; third, common sense.”
― Thomas A. Edison

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Permalink Reply by Anthony D'Alessandro on February 8, 2013 at 6:26pm

This happened this morning the time stamp is off by 12 hours. So it is 5:54am... Unfortunately the motion sensor lights don't come on until the end...

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Permalink Reply by Anthony D'Alessandro on February 8, 2013 at 9:18pm

The video didn't post :-( 5mb limit I will try to get it up there tomorrow

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Permalink Reply by John Boutet on February 9, 2013 at 1:20am

I would recommend you post it on YouTube and put the link on Location19. Right now keeping Location19 going is costing us $24.95 a month http://www.ning.com/chooseplan . That gives us up to 10GB storage. After that I have to start deleting content or go up to the next contract level which will cost us $59.95 a month. The "us" is Marian and me. That is a lot of money for the privileged of working for free as admins. You may notice that most of the pictures I post are greatly reduced in size. A 1.5 MPixel image more than fills a screen, so even if I shoot at 10 or 16 MPixel resolution, I reduce it down to what makes sense posting.